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Post by Zone Fighter on Mar 27, 2005 15:32:58 GMT -8
There's no regneration sequence in "Rose" the first episode of this new series. That leaves a big hole in the Doctor's life. I hope they some how fill that hole in. Why is there a 9th Doctor, what happened to #8 (Paul McGann)?
If what I read on an Australian web page is correct, the Autons (Spearhead from Space, Terror of the Autons) will appear in 3 episodes and the Daleks, which were oriiginally not going to be in the series at all will also appear in 3 episodes. The sixth episode of this new series, titled "Dalek" will apparently feature the last of the old style Daleks. Then the final story of this series, "The Parting Of The Ways", will introduce the next generation of Daleks.
I have not found any refrences to the 9th Doctor meeting Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart. The 6th and 8th didn't meet him, on camera either. There have been audio adventures that allowed these Doctors to meet up with his old friend though.
So far there are no indications that the Doctor's nemesis the Master may have survived the American TV movie. If he doesn't appear in this series he should in a later series, if there are any. Since The Master's introduction, in the third Doctor story "Terror of the Autons", every Doctor has had to deal with him at least once. Even if you assume he was actually killed in that movie, this is a series about time travel and an early version of the Master could be met. After all we've only met 3 versions of the Master. Normally a Time Lord has 13 "lives" but 2 of the 3 versions of the Master were people whos bodies he had taken over after using up all his regenerations (ie he had 15 lives). In theory there should be 12 more versions of the Master before he ran out of regenerations and started possessing other people.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 27, 2005 16:45:35 GMT -8
has it been established all of his previous incarnations were evil? if they weren't the Doctor could "meet" a younger incarnation without him knowing what would happen and in trying to stop him from becoming the Master sending him on his way.
just a thought.
David
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Post by Zone Fighter on Mar 27, 2005 21:32:07 GMT -8
That an interesting idea. All we really know about the Master's past is that he went to the Time Lord academy with the Doctor. So they've known each other a long time. The Doctor has other Time Lord friends that were not always bad but went bad in the end. So it make sense that Master may have not have always been out to rule the universe.
There is an episode in which the Doctor takes Rose back in time to meet her father, who apparently died when she was young, and this sentlemental intrusion into his companion's past causes a disaster.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 28, 2005 0:00:55 GMT -8
yeah, i think that could happen. my father died when i was not quite five, and i've always wondered what it would be like to talk to him as an adult.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Mar 31, 2005 12:18:53 GMT -8
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 31, 2005 13:16:17 GMT -8
that is too bad he quit. i understand that fear, but come on, why did he even sign up for the series? it's disappointing to have the guy change again so soon. ah well, it's just a tv show, it's just a tv show... right?  |
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Post by Zone Fighter on Mar 31, 2005 13:49:37 GMT -8
I just realised, the 8th Doctor appeared on TV only in the one movie so that would make the 8th the shortest lived. Unless you count the audio stories in which Paul McGann plays the Doctor. Since Eccleston quit after only 1 episode of one season was shown I doubt he will do audio adventures.
So either the 8th or 9th Doctor is the shortest lived depending on how many audios McGann did. Eccleston will have had 11 stories, divided into 13 episodes.
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Post by Shonokin on Apr 7, 2005 7:00:08 GMT -8
Based on the latest articles from the BBC it seems that Eccleston was always meant to have just the one season with a chance to renew for another season if he wanted. The BBC simply screwed up by A) not getting him into a iron clad multi-season contract and B) admitted by themselves, that they weren't supposed to talk about Eccleston leaving until near the end of the series.
I've seen some people talk about how outrageous it is he's leaving after the Beeb has spent so much on publicity and merchandising. But hey, look at Sentai and Toku series, they do this intentionally every season so that they CAN make more merchandise.
That being said, it's too bad he's going because the two episodes so far have really shown him to be a good incarnation of the Doctor. Piper is turning out to be really good as Rose as well. Episode 2 was at least 5 times better than ep 1 and ep 1 wasn't bad.
I look forward to the rest of the season and look forward to seeing what the future of the series holds.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Apr 7, 2005 15:10:28 GMT -8
I hope the series is released on DVD in the US. I'd like to see it.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 7, 2005 15:48:59 GMT -8
i'd like to see it as well, but since i waited 20 years or so to see Doctor Who on tv i think i can wait a few weeks/months/years more to see the new one! |
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Post by Shonokin on Apr 9, 2005 8:17:03 GMT -8
Last thing I read about it, which was a month or so ago, was that the 3 episode DVD sets wont come out in the US but that the entire 13 episode boxed set will be out for R1 this fall.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Apr 18, 2005 8:19:05 GMT -8
New Doctor choosen and there will be a regeneration series. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4450285.stmThere's a phrase in this article that bothers me: "He said Eccleston reinvented the role of Doctor Who so it appealed to the UK's best actors." First of its role of "The Doctor" not Doctor Who. Second the Doctor does not need to be reinvented. |
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 18, 2005 9:01:03 GMT -8
that's just written by someone who doesn't know the series and is trying to mistakenly make it appeal to a crowd that doesn't really matter anyway. each and every Doctor-actor "reinvented" the character to a degree, i'd say, but he always appealed to people.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Jun 16, 2006 12:40:12 GMT -8
The current Doctor will lose his companion at end of the season's two part finale (actress wants to move on). Rumor has it that Rose may actually die.
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Post by RedKing on Jun 23, 2006 10:18:28 GMT -8
That's too bad as I like Rose a great deal. She's probably the best companion in a very long time! Though I have yet to see how she interacts with the new Doctor, the dynamics and chemistry could be different, but she was very good with the 9th Doctor.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Jul 5, 2006 14:02:06 GMT -8
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Post by Zone Fighter on Aug 8, 2006 16:16:36 GMT -8
Doctor Who - The Complete First Series DVD set is out. I received an email from Amason recommending it to me since I had bought Doctor Who VHS in the past. Of course I went right to Netflix, added the discs to my queue, moved them to the top, then rearranged my queue so as the original Star Trek disc 40 is first so I can finish out that series. After that I'll be alternating betwen the new Doctor Who and Dark Shadows volumes 9 and 10.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Aug 9, 2006 9:53:58 GMT -8
i'd kind of like to see it, but it's just not high on my list of things to watch, really. weird. i rarely watch any Who since my friend Ed passed on a few years ago, he was the one that sent my all my supplies.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Aug 9, 2006 19:20:29 GMT -8
I must have been too slow in moving Star Trek Original Series disc 40 ahead of Doctor Who the Complete First Season disc 1 in my queue because Doctor Who was mailed today and should arrive tomorrow but Star Trek won't be mailed until tomorrow.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Aug 10, 2006 15:34:45 GMT -8
Disc 1 contains 3 episodes and bonus material
The episodes:
Rose - the Doctor meets his latest companion, and an old enemy
The End of the World - the Doctor takes Rose forward billions of years to the end of planet Earth
The Unquiet Dead - the Doctor and Rose meet Charles Dickens
Bonus material
Interview with Christopher Eccleston on BBC Breakfast
Destroying the Lair (about filming a sequence in episode 1)
Making Doctor Who
Waking the Dead
Laying Ghosts
Launch trailers
Storyboard of opening trailer
audio commentaries of the episodes (I didn't listen, I rarely do)
In the 60s and 70s the BBC made the error of listing the character in the credits as "Doctor Who". In the 80s that was corrected to "The Doctor". Now BBC Wales has gone back to the erronious credit.
The following contain some spoilers:
Rose:
The opening video sequence is similar to sequences used in the older series, except the Doctor's face is not shown. The music is a more modern version of the original theme. I prefer the original theme.
I was afraid this modern series might be too serious, too dark. But at least in the first episode that is not the case there is still some humor. Most of it from the Doctor's quirky personality. And although Christopher Eccleston said in the interview that he doesn't care for camp and wasn't a big fan of the older series, this episode does have its campy moments, even if the sets don't woble. Getting used to the Doctor's accent is going to take some getting used to.
The first episode is titled "Rose". The title character is Rose Tyler who is destined to become the Doctor's traveling companion. The episode first introduces Rose, then brings back the (3rd) Doctor's enemy, the Autons and then introduces the Doctor. After the Doctor saves Rose, the two part. Rose loses her job when the department store she worked in blew up. Rose learns from a man named Clive that someone called "The Doctor" has been appearing throughout history always just before some disaster. Clive correctly assumes that this Doctor is an alien but jumps to the incorrect conclusion that he's hostile and causing these disasters. The first photo he shows Rose has the Doctor in America the day President Kennedy was assassisnated. The first episode of the original Doctor Who was delayed by a BBC news report of Kennedy's assasination. Rose meets the Doctor a couple more times before finally joining him in the TARDIS.
Although there is no regeneration scene to explain the change in the Doctor's appearance the Doctor does get a glimpse of himself in a mirror and makes a comment about his new appearance. He's not sure about the ears.
Apparently this series has created a new backstory for the Doctor. He's a survivor of a war involving different words throughout time and space. I haven't read them but there are some books in which the Doctor is the last surviving Time Lord. Seems we'll learn more about this war and the Doctor's part in it as the series unfolds.
Why knowing the Nestene was invading again did the Doctor not contact UNIT? This is the third time London was invaded by Autons, how come no humans recognised them?
The End of the World (aka Doctor Who and the Resteraunt at the End of the Universe):
To show off his TARDIS the Doctor takes Rose 5 billion years into the future, to a space station when obeservers from other worlds will watch the Earth as its expanding sun engulfs it. Among the guests are Lady Cassandra the "last surving human". As Rose pointe out there isn't really anything human left of Cassandra. She's just a patch of skin which talks. The other guests are only slightly less strange. For example an inteligent talking tree decended from one of Earth's rain forests. This person knows where the Doctor is from and she offers him her sympathy without explaining why. Someone is sabotaging the station and the Doctor has to save everyones lives.
The Doctor's talk with Rose at the end contradicts Tom Baker (as did the American Doctor Who movie) and Colin Baker episodes. The Doctor claims that his planet (he does not name it) has been burnt up, before its time, as a result of his people losing a war. He claims to be the only survivor, the last of the Time Lords. This is impossible. First of all the TARDIS energy source is the Eye of Harmony in the center of Gallifrey ("The Deadly Assassin"). If Gallifrey was destroyed then the TARDIS would cease to function. Contrary to the American movie, the Eye of Harmony cannot be removed from Gallifrey. Second, the Doctor cannot be the only Time Lord because Time Lords in the future drag the 6th Doctor across time and space to put him on trial. We know its the future because the prosecuter is an evil version of the Doctor which somehow comes to being between the Doctor's last two regenerations. This current Doctor is not one of those. The Time Lords cannot have ceased to exist before they put the Doctor on trial.
Even though the first episode is basically a rehash of two Jon Pertwee episodes (minus UNIT) I like it. I did not like the second episode. Summary and opinion of third episode later.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Aug 10, 2006 16:56:02 GMT -8
The Unquiet Dead:
Having upset Rose with a glimpse of the far distant future, the Doctor decides to take her on a journey into Earth's past, to 1860. But, of course he's unable to control the TARDIS properly and ends up 9 years late, which is pretty good considering what usually happens when the Doctor aims for a specific date. Its Christmas. The Doctor and Rose meet Charles Dickens and some "ghosts". This story is very similar to the 7th Doctor story "Ghostlight" but better. I'm not certain but I think this episode was set on the furture site of UNIT HQ. There is another reference to the Time War.
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