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Post by el-brazo on Mar 9, 2005 19:37:47 GMT -8
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 9, 2005 19:50:11 GMT -8
well, it's obviously from the Five Riders movie, or perhaps it's a compilation of episodes as well. Iga is the X Rider expert, so perhaps he can tell us if those are the original actors as well.
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Post by el-brazo on Mar 9, 2005 20:01:35 GMT -8
I already checked HANUMAN VS. 5 KAMEN RIDERS and FIVE RIDERS VS. KING DARK, but the images are not from those movies.  |
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Post by Igadevil on Mar 9, 2005 22:50:49 GMT -8
I believe those images are from the Taiwanese version (same guys who made the "Super Riders" movies) of the 5 Riders vs. King Dark movie, which I have yet to see. I'd be willing to bet it's better than the Hanuman one, which was made without Toei's consent IIRC.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 9, 2005 23:01:16 GMT -8
here's hoping all the Super Rider movies show up sometime in the near future!
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Post by Torgaman on Mar 10, 2005 8:27:23 GMT -8
I am not certain but it is safe to assume these were dubbed or subtitled versions of the taiwanese films.They
must have popped in mexico during the kung fu craze of the late seventies early eighties,which once again caught on in the late eighties early nineties.Believe it or
not I actually paid to see Michael Dudikoff martial arts clunkers in the theatre when I lived in Mexico.
By the way "Relampagueante" can be translated as lightning fast in this context.
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Post by el-brazo on Mar 10, 2005 19:09:41 GMT -8
Igadevil: > I believe those images are from the Taiwanese version (same guys > who made the "Super Riders" movies) of the 5 Riders vs. King Dark > movie, which I have yet to see. I'd be willing to bet it's better > than the Hanuman one, which was made without Toei's consent IIRC. Are you sure? (I don't know what IIRC means, that's why I am asking.) The Thai Kamen Rider movie was made by Chaiyo and is officially sold in Thailand on VCD and DVD, so I think it's a legal release. Torgaman: > They must have popped in mexico during the kung fu craze of the > late seventies early eighties,which once again caught on in the > late eighties early nineties. Very interesting ... that would indeed explain the weird title. > By the way "Relampagueante" can be translated as lightning fast > in this context. Thanks a lot! By the way, do you happen to know what "S.A." means?
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Post by August on Mar 10, 2005 21:09:46 GMT -8
Chaiyo asked Toei if they could allow them to produce a Kamen Rider movie... Toei declined... Chaiyo made the movie anyway... therefore it was unauthorized and illegal.
As for the movie in question, this was made in Taiwan by the same folks who brought us SUPER RIDERS WITH THE DEVIL ("Super Riders vs. Devil"). Would really like to see these films issued on DVD in any form...
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Post by el-brazo on Mar 10, 2005 21:36:29 GMT -8
August: > Chaiyo asked Toei if they could allow them to produce a Kamen > Rider movie... Toei declined... Chaiyo made the movie anyway... > therefore it was unauthorized and illegal. Thanks for the info! Though I am really puzzled. Does that mean that whatever is sold in Thailand is a potential bootleg?  I always thought that companies like TIGA are selling licenced material only. Well, that movie sucks anyway ... strangely enough, however, it somehow made it's way at least to Turkey. > As for the movie in question, this was made in Taiwan by the > same folks who brought us SUPER RIDERS WITH THE DEVIL ("Super > Riders vs. Devil"). Would really like to see these films issued > on DVD in any form... Uhm ... which one is that? I only know the German titles, KRIEG DER INFRAS (Kamen Rider) and FRANKENSTEINS KUNG FU MONSTER (Kamen Rider V3).
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 10, 2005 22:47:08 GMT -8
Super Riders with the Devil = KRIEG DER INFRAS Super Rider V3 with the Devil (?)= FRANKENSTEIN'S KUNG FU MONSTER Super Rider X with the Devil (?) =  that help? |
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Post by el-brazo on Mar 10, 2005 23:09:31 GMT -8
@megaloman:
> that help?
Thanks!
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 11, 2005 0:07:28 GMT -8
wilkomen (is that right? my German is a bit rusty...)
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Post by Igadevil on Mar 11, 2005 8:55:34 GMT -8
Are you sure? (I don't know what IIRC means, that's why I am asking.) The Thai Kamen Rider movie was made by Chaiyo and is officially sold in Thailand on VCD and DVD, so I think it's a legal release. Yeah, I'm sure, as August also pointed out. If you've ever seen the Thai Riders movie...let's just say it shows. Entertaining movie, but I wouldn't say it's a very good movie. The Taiwanese movies, on the other hand, are very good, IMHO. IIRC = If I Recal Correctly |
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Post by Torgaman on Mar 11, 2005 20:42:24 GMT -8
El Brazo asked:"Thanks a lot! By the way, do you happen to know what "S.A." means? "
S.A. stands for Sociedad Anonima,common initials used to identify a company as a stock owned company,in this
case it would be POLI[Multi]Films Mundiales[Worldwide].
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 11, 2005 22:30:17 GMT -8
Xenorama sure has the best fans, don't we?
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Post by el-brazo on Mar 12, 2005 0:23:33 GMT -8
@megaloman: > wilkomen (is that right? my German is a bit rusty...) It's almost right, but "willkommen" is not used that way. "Thanks! => You're welcome!" in German is "Danke! => Bitte!" Igadevil: > If you've ever seen the Thai Riders movie...let's just say it shows. > Entertaining movie, but I wouldn't say it's a very good movie. I know the Thai Ultraman, Kamen Rider, and -- was that Jumborg Ace? -- films. I think, all of them are much too long, that's why they're kind of boring. I must admit, though, that the last half of the Ultraman movie is pretty cool, with lot's of monsters and mass destruction. > The Taiwanese movies, on the other hand, are very good, IMHO. I must admit I am highly biased, because I saw the German ones on the big screen when I was a kid. Of course, I love them.  I also like the way they're dubbed, it makes them even more entertaining. You know, those adorable 1970's dubs, silly and goofy in a wonderful way. *Sniff!* ... they don't dub movies like this anymore. Since you're the Kamen Rider expert, could you please tell me something about the villians which can be seen on those cards? Are they all from the Kamen Rider X series? I am particularly interested in the sword-bearing warrior from the first image and that strange top-hatted guy who stands in front of the big statue. Torgaman: > S.A. stands for Sociedad Anonima,common initials used to identify > a company as a stock owned company,in this case it would be > POLI[Multi]Films Mundiales[Worldwide]. Ah, now I see ... thanks again! You live and learn! |
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 12, 2005 11:17:27 GMT -8
i only know a little German, so thanks for the lesson.
Iga will know most if not all of the kaijin names, he's a genius!
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Post by amphiboid on Mar 12, 2005 11:57:43 GMT -8
Xenorama's fans achieve a shiny level of coolness.
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Post by August on Mar 13, 2005 5:07:14 GMT -8
Here are some answers to the creatures in the photos...
The one class photo of kaijin in front of the "statue" (actually King Dark, leader of the Government of Darkness) are from the original KAMEN RIDER X series (left to right): Ghengis Khan Condor, Toad Goemon, Rhinocerous Beetle Lupin and Scorpion Geronimo.
The kaijin wielding the triden seems to be an original creation for the film... the bat-like kaijin is "Frankenbat" from the Japanese 5 KAMEN RIDERS VS. KING DARK theatrical featurette... the big fanged kaijin with the shield is a remake of one of the creatures from the KAMEN RIDER X teleseries (minus the second face on its chest), Hercules... I can't make out the kaijin that Kamen Rider 1 and 2 are trashing...
Hope this helps!
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 13, 2005 9:42:35 GMT -8
who knew August would reply before Iga?  that does help. i did recognize "Franken-Comori" and "Hercules" but the rest were unknown to me. |
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Post by Zone Fighter on Mar 13, 2005 12:35:41 GMT -8
That one being kicked may be Chronos, but I can't be certain. I can't get a clear enough view of its face to be sure. The one to the left of the woman and child, with Hercules to the right, could be Cadeus, but again its not clear enough for me to be sure.
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I always thought that companies like TIGA are selling licenced material only. Well, that movie sucks anyway ... strangely enough, however, it somehow made it's way at least to Turkey.
that does help. i did recognize "Franken-Comori" and "Hercules" but the rest were unknown to me.