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Post by Zone Fighter on Mar 24, 2005 15:55:01 GMT -8
I just got The Sinbad Collection: The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958) The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1974) Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger (1977) I've seen the first two before, but I don't think I've seen the third. This set's suggested prices is nearly $80. I got it on ebay for $26.20 and that included shipping. It's brand new, still shrink wrapped. According to the "Packing List" they sent with it you can find the seller at www.moviemagicusa.com I also got The Forbidden Planet from them. Was supposed to get War of the Worlds but they discovered their last one was broken and sent a refund check.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 24, 2005 17:26:11 GMT -8
that's a great price, and let us know how you like the movies.
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Post by stareater on Mar 25, 2005 5:36:54 GMT -8
I had already purchased all three separately, back in my early DVD days when I thought Amazon had good prices. I probably paid about $50 total for all three. For anyone interested, you can purchase the set for a total of $25.56 from, ironically, Amazon.That's the cheapest price I could find from a store I'm familiar with, would trust, and has it in stock.
I saw Eye of the Tiger in the theater with my father when I was a child. Cool experience. I loved it at the time, and still enjoy it today.
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Post by Preston on Apr 10, 2005 17:07:16 GMT -8
There was also a half-hour animated series about SINBAD. Does anybody else remember it? I don't have any video from it but I wrote down some notes during its run, so I can recall some of the episodes. There were some that have stood out in my mind, so I can remember them in much detail. One of those concerned the FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH. I will give a synopsis and then a criticism.
In that episode, Sinbad's friend, Abu, asks for Sinbad's help to find his friends who have Not returned from the search for the Fountain Of Youth. Also earlier, Sinbad's partner, Hakim, had bought an unusual Telescope from a dealer who claimed that the telescope can magically expose the truth behind a deception when the scope is looked through. When Sinbad in his ship finds the Island of the Fountain of Youth, Hakim's Telescope reveals that the island is bleak instead of the deceptive paradise, so the scope has genuine magic.
On that island,Abu finds his friends who are now Young, in their 20s instead of 60 years old as the result of drinking from the Fountain of Youth. They persuade Abu into drinking the elixir despite Sinbad's warning that Hakim's magic Telescope has shown that Abu's men are NOT younger but are EVEN Older (that is,80) than their original age (60). It turns out that the Young Lady Caretaker of the Elixir is actually a Witch who has to periodically drain the youth from duped victims in order to maintain her own youth.
From cave drawings, Sinbad finds that out as well as the antidote which is to destroy a giant hourglass on a mountaintop. Soon, the last grains of the hourglass will drop into its bottom half, at which time the crew's Old age will be Irreversible. Confident that her goal is almost attained, the Witch sees there's no point in keeping up the illusion, so now Abu and crew see their true age, 80, and realize Sinbad is right.
But the giant hourglass is too heavy for even their combined strength to push over the precipice. But Abu now has the wisdom of his experience, so he has a plan of making a catapult from a tropical tree known for its flexibility. The whole crew use a vine to bend the tree as far Backwards as they can. When they let go, the tree catapults a big rock at the hourglass to shatter it, thereby destroying the Witch and restoring everyone to their true ages.
The story has an Aesop's fable kind of lesson in that although youth has its joys but old age has the maturity and wisdom of experience as opposed to youthful impulsiveness.
My only criticism is the discrepancy that because their Youth was an Illusion, why did they Not feel any weakness, any feebleness at all in their 80 year old bodies. Remember, the "elixir" made them even older than they already were.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Apr 10, 2005 19:32:04 GMT -8
The magical illusion, unlike a mere optical illusion, effected all their senses so they could not feel their real age.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 10, 2005 21:03:05 GMT -8
i don't remember a Sinbad 30 minute cartoon, but i do remember the Sinbad, Jr. cartoon from the 60s. he had the magic belt!
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Post by Preston on Apr 19, 2005 16:18:05 GMT -8
Yes, Megs, I remember the Sinbad-Junior series but only vaguely. That is, I don't recall any specific plotlines. Do you?
Also, what were the capabilities of his magic-belt? I don't think it was anywhere as powerful as a Wand. What were the belt's capabilites?
While I'm at it, I might as well add a particularly innovative Sinbad story I enjoyed from a comic book. In that story, Sinbad and his crew landed on a mysterious island. They were very hungry, and then one of the crew found a FRUIT-TREE. Eagerly, he plucked out one of the fruits and ate it. But it turns out that the TREE is Sentient so that the result of the man EATING a fruit enables the Tree to take over the man's mind!!
It confused me at first as to whether the sentience lies in the whole tree or just each fruit. But when I really think about it, it's the Whole tree. That is, each fruit is an Extension of the tree.
As a "victim" eats each fruit, the victim is taken over and forced to plant seeds to grow more trees. So that is how the Tree reproduces and spreads.
At this point, an interesting question occurs to me. That is, is the Tree an EVIL creature or not? After all, it takes over people in order to extend itself.
Could it even be considered as Sentient or not??#nosmileys
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 19, 2005 17:27:05 GMT -8
the belt just gave him magic powers, mostly increased strength. he and Salty the parrot wandered the seas righting wrongs and such.
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Post by RoadWarriorYajuta on Apr 21, 2005 16:04:13 GMT -8
I used to love that show. I watched it all the time when I was younger.
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Post by amphiboid on Apr 21, 2005 19:59:05 GMT -8
I forget if I asked this before, but does anyone remember a Japanese Sinbad feature cartoon from the mid-60's I think, with really Speed Racer-looking anime characters, and one of the two funny comic relief guys sings a song about a "Magic Guitar"? Haven't seen it in 30 years or more.............
I remember the 60's cartoon shorts of Sinbad, there was a jazzy theme song that went "Sinbad the Sailor, sailing the ocean blue...dum dum dum hmm hmm hmm, turning wrong to right," or something like that....I remember him tugging on the magic belt and light coming out of it, or lightning, or something, and him being really strong. Uh, yeah, that was a long time ago, and I was really small then.
Cool McCool, anyone?
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Post by amphiboid on Apr 21, 2005 20:10:40 GMT -8
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 21, 2005 20:51:59 GMT -8
i think there is more than one Sinbad cartoon, it seems like i saw a different Japanese one many years ago, but hanged if i can remember a thing about it. that's the right song for Sinbad, Jr. "sinbad the sailer, sailing the ocean blue, with Salty the Parrot by his side, they are a fearless crew..." i think, and then there's more, but i'm not typing it out. if you have real player go to the cartoon themes page i posted on in the cartoon section and you can relive it!
David
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Post by amphiboid on Jun 18, 2005 10:57:45 GMT -8
So does anyone know what is up with the apparent removal of surface gauges from "The 7th Voyage of Sinbad" DVD? It kinda messes it up for me. There was one shot of the dragon crawling along the beach and keeling over where the gauges were definitely removed.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Jun 18, 2005 13:09:26 GMT -8
they've removed a lot of that stuff from the movies. i never noticed them in the first place, so it's no big deal to me. i'm not sure about all the movies, but definately the Sinbad ones and the myth movies as well.
this sort of thing doesn't bother me too much, but it is tampering with the movie. at some point the creator really has to let his creation go and "become one with the ages" otherwise you get the Lucas effect where tampering never ends and there's no definitive vision or version.
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Post by Gwangi on Aug 1, 2005 9:01:04 GMT -8
Well, I just saw “The 7th Voyage Of Sinbad” AND Ray Harryhausen over the weekend in Santa Monica. It’s actually the second time I’ve seen Sinbad on the big screen this year (saw it back in January). Heck, I’d rather see it many times over than say one of these new features like “Stealth”.
Of course, on MZ, David did mention that Ray’s b/w movies were now to be colorized! True enough, I heard it with my own ears! On the board ready for colorization are the three Columbia features, “It Came From Beneath the Sea”, “Earth vs. The Flying Saucers” and “20 Million Miles To Earth”. “The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms (a Warner Brothers release), is not on the board yet, but it looks like it’s going to go through the process as well.
During that Q/A session, I did raise my hand hoping to be picked and ask Ray to elaborate on why the colorization. Didn’t get that chance. Ray did assure the audience that he’s seen the process and was very please and that it did not look like those awful colorizations we saw in the 80s and 90s. Still, colorizing them, will somehow give the notion to those who detest b/w movies a feeling of vindication. Now, that’s the last thing I need to hear from these guys.
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Post by Shonokin on Aug 1, 2005 13:21:57 GMT -8
The extremely sad truth is that there is probably a whole generation of kids/young adults who have not seen these movies and won't be interested unless they are in color. Next thing ya know they'll be using color crayons on DaVinci's woodblock prints and etchings to get kids to visit museums.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Aug 1, 2005 15:16:45 GMT -8
Idiots (this generation I mean). I'm afraid my own nephew is in this bunch. He told me that remakes are "always better" when I told him I didn't go to the original "Bad News Bears" so there was no way I was going to the remake.
Alfred Hitchcock intentionally made "Pyscho" in b/w after having already made several color films. There are some things b/w is better for than color.
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Post by amphiboid on Aug 1, 2005 16:32:34 GMT -8
Yeah, like scaring the crap outta people!
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Post by The Lost Spider on Aug 1, 2005 16:33:18 GMT -8
It Came From Beneath the Sea is being colorized? I'm so there....
I don't have a problem with colorized films. If you don't like it you have the option of sticking with the original B+W.
It's nice to have a choice. I think the monster Octopus from ICFBTS will look great in color. Hopefully they will make him a reddish color.
I wonder what color YMIR will be?
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Aug 1, 2005 17:19:24 GMT -8
somehow i don't think the reasoning behind colorizing these movies will pan out. people who already think old movies are "cheesy" and "cheap" because they don't have glitzy effects and rely on mood and story to scare people aren't going to watch these movies if they are in color either.
the main problem i have with colorization is that the movie's look was chosen to be shot in b/w. the colors needed to be a contrast so they wouldn't wash out the palette. when the movies are colorized, they use colors that wouldn't even have existed back then- i remember seeing Bogie wearing pastels in some old colorized movie.
ah well, it would be far more upsetting if we didn't have the b/w option.
David
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Post by amphiboid on Aug 1, 2005 21:19:44 GMT -8
Actually I just ordered a colorized Night of the Living Dead from 1992. (I have the THX black and white version, but I like the colorized one for popcorn parties.) I kinda like certain films colorized, but I try to have the black and white version too. Good to have both.
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