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Post by hman on Mar 17, 2005 16:38:59 GMT -8
Well, I had a topic about this posted on the old message board. Now it's a full-blown article, although I'll continue adding to it as my experience increases. This is dedicated to all those novelty fights that we always wanted to see and then got a chance to watch. www.angelfire.com/ca5/blake/fight.html |
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 17, 2005 17:23:54 GMT -8
well written, and i agree with most of it! although, the move "Jackie" uses to finish Benny off at the end of DRAGONS FOREVER is actually Yuen Biao doing it. still quite enjoyable though.
i'd be interested in hearing about any other movies- didn't Wang Yu fight Jackie in KILLER METEORS?
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Post by hman on Mar 18, 2005 3:56:19 GMT -8
He probably did. They had a sword fight at the end of Fantasy Mission Force that was actually better than I expected.
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Post by danthemandmv on Mar 18, 2005 10:01:46 GMT -8
Blake-another cool read! 8-)Indeed,''KILLER METEOR'' does boast a climactic battle between Wang Yu&Jackie.I'd like to offer another such battle(two,actually):both bouts between Jackie&Bradley David Allen in ''GORGEOUS''.Allen moves like greased lightning,&Jackie keeps up with him rather well(most impressive,bearing in mind Jackie was already in his early 40's at the time ''GORGEOUS'' was filmed...)
Yat dan,yee lik,sam gung fu!
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 18, 2005 13:39:59 GMT -8
it's too bad they never did a battle of the Bruce clones. i'd also recommend Conan Lee vs Hiroyuki Sanada in NINJA IN THE DRAGON'S DEN as well.
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Post by RoadWarriorYajuta on Mar 19, 2005 20:00:28 GMT -8
Awesome read and now I want to see those movies I haven't seen yet. I know you guys may not like Wire Fu, but I still say Broen Sword and Nameless' duel above the Lake from Hero is one the most beautiful and artistic fight scenes I have ever seen.
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Post by hman on Mar 20, 2005 9:04:26 GMT -8
I'm not against wire-fu, there are some wire-fu movies and fights that I absolutely adore. What gets me is when you have a legendary showdown or an incredibly talented star and the choreographer chooses to use a lot of wires rather than push the players to their physical limits (so to speak).
On the artistic side, Ching Siu-Tung's fights tend to be the beautiful fights ever filmed. Watch the finale of Dragon Inn where Tony Leung, Brigitte Lin, and Maggie Cheung take on Donnie Yen in the desert. Absolutely beautiful.
I guess you really have to take each movie individually. I don't know.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Mar 20, 2005 10:15:26 GMT -8
what happened to me was that watching all these wire enhanced movies where little to no actual martial arts were done got old. then listening to some fans just go on and on about how great the fights were when NO one was doing kung fu- how dumb! learn a little bit about martial arts before talking about great fight scenes (the critics, not us, we are cool!  ) so i just gave up, which is probably not a good idea. |
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Post by hman on Mar 21, 2005 6:40:39 GMT -8
I'd be hesitant to put in Jackie Chan's duels with Bradley James Allan more because Bradley was an unknown at the time. The fights are excellent by all standards. It's the same thing with Jackie Chan's duel with Ken Low in Drunken Master II, it was only after this fight that Ken made a name for himself as a supreme super-booter. That's kind of my opinion on it. But now that both Ken and Bradley have cult followings, I'm keeping an eye on their work.
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Post by hman on May 3, 2006 11:49:03 GMT -8
Hey, where did you find out that Yuen Biao doubled for Chan on the last move in Dragons Forever?
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Post by Xenorama ™ on May 3, 2006 19:12:42 GMT -8
Mr Damon Foster clued me in on it in some issue of Oriental Cinema, then when you watch the DVD you can slow it down and see it's not Jackie doing it.
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Post by hman on May 4, 2006 17:02:37 GMT -8
Yeah, I noticed it the last time I watched it. Excellent move though. He did the same type of kick in "Eastern Condors" and "Righting Wrongs." Yuen was the true bootmaster of the 80s.
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