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Post by Xenorama ™ on Nov 21, 2007 14:14:20 GMT -8
we all know the BIG 3 of DC Comics are Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. they are probably the big three comic heroes of all time, i'd posit, since almost everyone knows them, even non-comic readers.
now, who are the "Big 3" of Marvel Comics? i mean, most influential. i'd say Captain America, Spider-man and The Fantastic Four (as an aggregate, since individually they are repeats of other heroes from before).
got any from other comics? Captain Marvel is one of course.
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Post by RoadWarriorYajuta on Nov 22, 2007 19:06:57 GMT -8
Well I'd replace the Fantastic Four with the X Men as one of Marvel's Big Three.
For Image comics I'd say Spawn, Savage Dragon, and Wild C.A.T.S.
For Red Circle/MLJ I'd say The Shield, The Fly(Man), and Archie.
For Fawcett I say The Marvel family, Black Adam, and Bulletman.
For Quality Comics I say Plastic Man, Blackhawk, and Phantom Lady.
For Charlton I'd say Blue Beetle, Peacemaker, and Judo Master.
for 2000 AD I say Judge Dredd, Nemisis, and ABC Warriors.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Jun 18, 2009 22:06:48 GMT -8
good suggestions Chad.
though now more people probably know Iron Man since I posted this ever so long ago!
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Post by RoadWarriorYajuta on Jun 19, 2009 19:07:45 GMT -8
Yep because the movie was such a hit. I think that was what made Marvel so great, they made so many iconic, seminal characters in such a short period. The Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Nick Fury, and so many other heroes at least deserve consideration. Throw in the awesome villains and Marvel truly revolutionized comics much the way Superman did. It wasn't only about the powers or costume, the heroes had depth an a more human side as they were beset with many of the same issues as the readers. DC had some great heroes during the Golden Age, so don't think I am downplaying them at all, but Marvel ushered in the silver age.
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Post by Zone Fighter on Jun 24, 2009 10:46:39 GMT -8
Initially Captain Marvel was more popular than Superman.
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Post by Torgaman on Jun 24, 2009 17:19:23 GMT -8
I would replace the FANTASTIC FOUR as one of the Big Three of Marvel and place in The Incredible Hulk because he was an allegory for nuclear disarmament even before such things became hip in American sci-fi.
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Post by RoadWarriorYajuta on Jun 25, 2009 8:54:39 GMT -8
Considering all characters after Superman are rip offs I don't believe it. Now if you had said at one point Marvel was out selling Superman then I wouldn't disagree at all. That was the main reason DC took Fawcett to court. I preferred the golden age Marvel stories to Superman. Early Superman was stoic and haughty while Marvel was funny and innocent in that aw shucks kind of way.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Jul 1, 2009 20:42:31 GMT -8
it's true Chad, Captain Marvel outsold Superman for a time, which is why DC/National went after them so hard. the similarities are pretty common, strong, fly, etc, but what got DC was the fact he outsold their boy.
they won, and shot themselves in the foot by doing so (they can't use the name "Captain Marvel" in a title for a book).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_%28DC_Comics%29
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Post by RoadWarriorYajuta on Jul 5, 2009 14:56:45 GMT -8
I know Dave, one reason Marvel was so popular was he appealed to kids in a way Superman never did. I know my reaction was knee jerk, but as you see even without the DC suit, Marvel had fallen way off. It did also take him a little bit to displace Superman, but yes, he had some huge sales numbers for a couple of years. I just think as far as over all impact no hero can ever displace Super Man. I did not know the Big Red Cheese held the distinction of being the first comic hero to be made into film.
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Post by Torgaman on Jul 5, 2009 18:31:09 GMT -8
I think the reason CAPTAIN MARVEL was the first superhero serial was because DC was approached by REPUBLIC for a Superman serial but DC's asking price for the rights was too high for the smaller studio to afford so they turned to FAWCETT who was more negotiable in terms of money and they made CAPTAIN MARVEL. Columbia eventually shelled out the moolah to do SUPERMAN and BATMAN but these paled in comparison to the serials that REPUBLIC put out. REPUBLIC may have been smaller potatoes but they knew how to do serials right in comparison to Columbia who rather than try to film convincing flight sequences for SUPERMAN instead relied on oh so obvious cartoon animation to make Supes fly.
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