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Post by Lunkhead on Apr 5, 2005 16:58:01 GMT -8
Yes, the original original. Whipped out our VHS full-screen (omagosh!) pre-record from the trilogy box set of a long time ago and watched it this past weekend. Still as much fun as ever. The old feelings of seeing it for the first time back in '77 returned. Even though it was interesting to see the revised, cgi-embelleshed version once, I'll still take the original for top fun factor over it.
"Will someone get this big walking carpet out of my way?"
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 5, 2005 22:03:24 GMT -8
next time i visit my friend i'll run a copy off for ya on DVDr. even though it says "episode 4" at the beginning it's still the same great movie.
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Post by Lunkhead on Apr 6, 2005 18:10:12 GMT -8
Thanks mate. Very nice of ya!
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Post by RoadWarriorYajuta on Apr 6, 2005 23:52:29 GMT -8
I love the original versions of the films, but then again I like the SEs, the prequels, Holiday Special, Ewok Movies, Ewok Cartoons, Droid Cartoons, Clone War Cartoons, and the novels. Guess I am just plain out a Star Wars geek, and I am friggiin stoked to see Sith! WooHoo!9Sorry I missed you in the chat Dave)
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 7, 2005 8:35:47 GMT -8
no problemo, maybe next time!
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 9, 2005 19:56:06 GMT -8
it was on tv today (it's called the uncut theatrical version now, not "special edition" or anything, just a note) and i watched about the last 30 minutes. i found it very interesting that Obi Wan addressed Darth Vader in a very familiar term as "Darth" and not "Vader" the way Grand Moff did. that always made us (at the time) think it was his full name- Darth Vader, so Darth was his first name, not a title. just something that crossed my mind.
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Post by danthemandmv on Apr 12, 2005 8:38:05 GMT -8
You know,David,I'd always been struck by how Obi-Wan addressed Vader during that confrontation as well.I'm not sure if Lucas had intended ''Darth'' to be a title among the Sith at the time Episode 4 was filmed or not;if so,perhaps Obi-Wan was using it sarcastically in the same way ''kisama'' is used in samurai&yakuza films?Of course,if he REALLY wanted to get Vader's goay he could've called him ''Anakin''... Yat dan,yee lik,sam gung fu!
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Post by Igadevil on Apr 12, 2005 21:39:48 GMT -8
Well, in AOTC Christopher Lee's character Count Dooku is sometimes adressed as "Count", so I think "Darth" is intended to be just a title in the same manner.
But most likely, since no one else was named "Darth" back then, most would think it to be his real name (also Obi talked about him like it was his "real" name, anway.)
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 12, 2005 22:26:59 GMT -8
could be- all i can relate is how we as fans thought of it in 1977. i'm really behind the times via books, comics and movies now. i'd be interested to see how the comics referred to him as- i did have about 80 of the Marvel comics back then.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 23, 2005 22:02:28 GMT -8
watched a little of Empire tonight- one of the big problems i (and David Gerrold, incidently) have with this is that Yoda doesn't practice what he preaches. when Luke wants to leave Dagobah he can't because his X-Wing is under the swamp. Yoda, who has been trying to curb Luke's impatience since he's been there, tells him to raise the ship himself. he tries and fails.
Yoda then lifts it right out of the swamp in a spectacular scene (one of the best in the series) and Luke can't believe it - "that is why you fail" Yoda replies, in one of his few straightforward sentences. then he just deposits it on the ground for Luke to use to leave the planet!
i always thought Yoda should have dropped it right back into the swamp and told Luke he could leave when he got it out himself. that way we would have seen that Like had actually learned something while he was there (we are sort of shown that later on, but i never got a proper sense of time in this movie- how long did it take Han to get to the cloud city, how long was Luke training, etc). instead, Yoda just caters to his student by giving him the means to leave without finishing his training.
granted, perhaps it was a test to see if he would leave, and Luke failed miserably since he did. a little more thought about this would have made things a bit clearer for me, and as we know, it's ALL about me!
just a ponderance- i won't even get into walking around inside a space worm on an asteroid with no space suits on...
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Post by amphiboid on Apr 24, 2005 6:42:49 GMT -8
But don't you remember those little plastic masks they were wearing, with the rubber bands that went around their heads? Those were their space suits.
And the space worm could breathe okay, and he wasn't wearing anything. And the mynocks could breathe okay, and they weren't wearing anything!
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Post by Zone Fighter on Apr 26, 2005 7:52:15 GMT -8
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Post by Igadevil on Apr 28, 2005 12:52:19 GMT -8
just a ponderance- i won't even get into walking around inside a space worm on an asteroid with no space suits on...
That's called "suspension of disbelief". I thought it was cooler than some of the clunky space suits you see in almost every other out space scene. Even in Ultraman, all they had were helmets- and Hayata even flew through space like that one time! Who cares about the physics of it?
And besides, both of those examples are still worlds beyond Starman- people falling in space, riiiiiight! ;D
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Apr 28, 2005 14:24:53 GMT -8
i said i wouldn't get into it! sure, there's plenty of suspension of disbelief, but there's still gotta be some internal logic, right? of course, i do know there's a risk pointing out such stuff, especially in the sainted EMPIRE movie. it's just things i ponder whilst watching movies (when you could only see movies once in a while it's never so noticable). the worm thing is far less worrisome than Yoda rewarding Luke's impatience though. of course, the Starman movies are so weird that falling in space almost makes sense!
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Post by Xenorama ™ on May 28, 2005 11:07:16 GMT -8
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