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Post by Mattster on May 1, 2005 12:30:18 GMT -8
Plan 9 from Outer Space = Big Cinematic Disgrace.
Do you agree with me?
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Post by Xenorama ™ on May 1, 2005 13:29:04 GMT -8
no. for the budget it had, and for the enjoyment it's given to millions of people, it's a lot of fun, despite being poorly made.
a big cinematic disgrace is a movie that doesn't come through- gino, kino, stuff like that.
or any pauly shore or adam sandler movie...
David
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Post by Zone Fighter on May 1, 2005 20:07:52 GMT -8
Isn't Plan 9 From Outer Space usuaully considered the worst movie ever made?
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Post by Gwangi on May 2, 2005 15:43:07 GMT -8
It's had that reputation ever since I believe the Medved brothers published their book and named it "the worst movie of all time", although I don't know for sure.
No, it’s not a great movie or even a good movie. But the worst of all time? Believe me, I’ve seen much worse multi-million dollar plus features that to me are just so unwatchable. “Plan 9” at least had a charm.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on May 2, 2005 16:09:20 GMT -8
exactly, and the moronic book by the moronic Medveds has done far more harm than good- it's also full of errors (Guilala spitting steel spears is just one i can think of off the top of my head). of course, the MEdveds have made SO many good movies...  as in NONE. like many critics, they have no idea how much work goes into even a "Plan 9". David |
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Post by Lunkhead on May 3, 2005 9:03:54 GMT -8
One of my all time favorites. What's not to love? EXACTLY! Give me Tor Johnson's Inspector Clay over Ben Affleck's Daredevil any day. Actually, I know the real reason PLAN 9 has such a bad rep: Viewers' hearts can't stand the shocking facts about... grave robbers from outer space!! +  = big fun factor |
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Post by Zone Fighter on May 3, 2005 14:33:57 GMT -8
**1/2 on Netflix.
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Post by Xenorama ™ on May 3, 2005 14:38:18 GMT -8
yeah, it may not be the greatest, but it sure is enjoyable. i saw it a few years ago and the crowd was great, we had a ball laughing at the dialogue.  David |
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Post by Lunkhead on May 3, 2005 15:02:16 GMT -8
I first saw it one New Year's Eve during a marathon which also included THEY SAVED HITLER'S BRAIN. What a fun way to ring in the new year!
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Post by Gwangi on May 6, 2005 12:46:25 GMT -8
Give me Tor Johnson's Inspector Clay over Ben Affleck's Daredevil any day. Actually, when I was ranting about million dollar plus turkeys, one of them I had in mind was indeed a Ben Affleck feature! It was not “Daredevil” or even “Gigli”. Never saw those. It was actually “Armageddon”, which I thought was the worst feature of 1998, and that says a lot given that GINO was released only a few weeks earlier that year. Not sure if it’s the worst movie I’ve ever seen, but it’s certainly up there on my list. Poor Ben. I actually like the guy, but he’s just been in a lot of bad movies. Which caused David Letterman to joke about it in one of his top 10 list: Top Ten Ways To Mispronounce Barack Obama 5. Affleck Box Office Bomb-A |
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Post by Xenorama ™ on May 6, 2005 12:51:15 GMT -8
i didn't see that movie, so gino was the worst piece of film i saw in '98. and i saw some other stinkers that year (GIRL, INTERRUPTED, MR RIPLEY, etc).
PLAN 9 is much more entertaining than those combined.
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Post by Zone Fighter on May 6, 2005 15:35:02 GMT -8
I'm glad I don't go to movies, except when my nephew is in town and I end up taking him to see something like Spiderman or Spiderman 2. Both of which I enjoyed. I also saw the previous Star Wars film with him and most likely I'l have to take him to see the "last" one. (I don't believe it will be the last one no matter what Lucas claims). I think the last film I went to on my own was Godzilla 2000. I was pleasantly surprised that a Japanese monster film actually made it to a theater here.
I prefer to buy or rent old movies on DVD. Most of the current stuff doesn't interest me.
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Post by RedKing on Jun 2, 2006 21:10:06 GMT -8
PLAN 9 is one of my all-time favorites! The Wade Williams DVD is not only a fantastic print, it also has the excellent documentary FLYING SAUCERS OVER HOLLYWOOD made around 1991 or so which has interviews with many of the then surviving cast and crew and visits sites where the movie was filmed, including the soundstage! I personally have the movie downloaded on my computer through Google's new video player so I can run it when I'm in the kitchen . I also have the "soundtrack" CD which is actually a recording of the film itsdelf with some slight edits of scenes that are all noise or sound effects, so that it's 69 minutes long. I have seen that a colorized version of the movie has been released on dvd that can be played in both color and black and white. I'd like to check that out, as I've seen some Stooges shorts that were colorized recently and they look great-the colorization process has improved incredibly since the 1980s when it first appeared. Another Plan 9 curiosity I have is the same model kit UFO that Ed used for the flying saucers in the movie. Contrary to popular belief, the flying saucers in the movie were dime store model kits, not paper plates or pie tins, and I got a reissue version of the same kit years ago. I never realized it was the same kit because the dome on the model is clear and there is a little alien inside and their are two jet boosters on the back of the UFO-Ed just painted the whole thing silver in the movie and took off the boosters. I wish I had bought more of the darn things back when they were out!
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Post by Xenorama ™ on Jun 9, 2006 10:27:21 GMT -8
you really DO like PLAN 9! that's a lot of different versions.
"Plan 9- nothing like it in the world!"
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Post by amphiboid on Jun 10, 2006 0:42:10 GMT -8
The colorized version sounds neat!
You know, the Medveds' stuff is full of inaccuracies, and yes, they're snooty and superior, but I still give them credit, because they waved the banner of bad film fandom long before it was fashionable--made it fashionable, as far as I can see. They sort of stood up and proclaimed that there was a growing culture of cinematic badness out there that was worth actively seeking out. I remember "The Golden Turkey Awards" being very inspirational when I was a kid. I was astounded--a whole book, pretty big one too, devoted to awful movies. I got a lot of laughs out of it back then.
That was around the late 70's, early 80's I think (such a great bunch of fantasy films we had back then!). I recall going to my first conventions around then, and seeing Plan 9 screened to very receptive audiences. "Future events, such as these...will affect you, in the future!" People were laughing and laughing in the little screening rooms. You could see something like that and then wander into another screening room and see "Night of the Living Dead" or "Dark Star" or "Hardware Wars." This post is going off in some other direction, but to steer it back, these cheesy little schlock movies are really wonderful, and I still have a love for bad movies.
Anyone ever seen "The Apple"? That's a favorite.
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as in NONE. like many critics, they have no idea how much work goes into even a "Plan 9".
